IMS Drag Civic Project

[BlackMagic]

This project is being built in conjuntion with several people and companies.**Without the support I have received the car would not exist...so, to start with, I want to say thank you to Travis (Boogeyman Productions), Russ (KC Auto Paint), PPG, Dave (Stay Tuned Motorsports), and Kirk (PTR Injection).**Im sure there will be many more names to add to the list as I get closer to finishing the car.

Some of you may have seen the car at the track in its previous stage as an NA drag car with a best time of 11.31 @ 120 mph.**The car has been to national competitions in Las Vegas, NV, Woodburn, OR, and Pomona, CA.**Here are some pictures of the car from years past.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/Hotness.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/Interior.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/SpeedShow.jpg

After much deliberation, and some help from a broken valve, I decided to take this car to the next level.**For this season the car is being prepped to run in the NHRA Sport Compact Hot Rod class.**The K20 powerplant will remain for this season with a GT4202R to help it breath.**We are currently working on a full color change for the car and have rearranged some of the interior components.**EMS engine management will be used to control the fuel needed to see some significant power.

I will continue to update this thread as I get things done.

GT42R with TiAl 46mm wastgate and Spearco air-water intercooler
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/NewPictures029.jpg
Aluminum ice and water reservoir
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/100_0266.jpg
Parachute mount kit
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/100_0267.jpg
50 amp drag race alternator
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/100_0268.jpg

The Bottom end assembly
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar002.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar001.jpg

This weekend I was able to get the majority of the interior put back together and Travis did an awesome job getting the parachute mount installed.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar005.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar006.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar007.jpg

[rrussell]

What!!!!!!!!!!!!

I told Travis to "double back tape" the parachute cords to the bumper!

That's the last time I will give my opinion.J/K:D

Nice work Travis!!!:cool:[/u]

[Metz Motorsports]

I love it! The motor in the living room!!

[Kolat]

sexy carbon fiber trunk floor, are you going to cut a hole in the hood or the bumper for the inlet on the turbo?

T

[BlackMagic]

The turbo is going to stick out of the hood about 3 inches.

[The Hog]

Careful with those chute mounts, they have a tendency to make your car sit on jackstands for years. :-)

[talntid]

dude that's a lot of stress for that little weld, isn't it?

[BlackMagic]

Careful with those chute mounts, they have a tendency to make your car sit on jackstands for years. :-)

I went ahead and took care of those years before I bought the mount...lol

[Kolat]

dude that's a lot of stress for that little weld, isn't it?


the little weld is the stand that holds the chute, when it's actually deployed the part that it's attached to is the bottom part that has the U shape with a hole on either side.

T

[talntid]

oh ok :)

[96gsx]

Thats sick!!

[Ninja_Bear]

maybe break into the 12's with that thing? :P

[BOOGEYMAN]

Glad you got some of the pic's up Reid!!!! Get that engine and header to my place on friday and it will be a very good weekend of progress.

Travis.

[BOOGEYMAN]

What!!!!!!!!!!!!

I told Travis to "double back tape" the parachute cords to the bumper!

That's the last time I will give my opinion.J/K:D

Nice work Travis!!!:cool:[/u]


HAHAHA, Russ you been hanging out at that shop in haden again........That must have been where you got the double back tape racing secret from!! :)

[BlackMagic]

Oh crap...that was a trade secret!!!

[KryptoSol]

lookin good! is it gonna make some noise this year?

[BlackMagic]

lookin good! is it gonna make some noise this year?


Maybe a little bit.

[GetawayInMoscow]

then there really will be a 9/10 second honda rolling around! haha

bring it to FNSR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BOOGEYMAN]

bring it to FNSR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ya where you can wait in line for 3 hours for one bs race and deal with all the unorganized shit out there........I think we will be taking it to seattle when we get some test passes in and the car figured out for the most part.

Travis

[BOOGEYMAN]

I got some spy photos of the new turbo header Reid bulit...... Just tacked up right now, tomarrow night we will do a final fit and I will finish welding it up, we will then cut the collector to fit and it will be ready to go!!! Looks great Reid!!!

Travis.

[KryptoSol]

What gauge tubing is that? and how are you guys gonna brace it?

[BlackMagic]

The tubing is 1.75" .065 wall mild steel. The turbo will be braced with a support from the flange to the engine block and transmission.

If I like the way this manifold sits in the car, I will be starting a final stainless one in a couple of weeks.

[BOOGEYMAN]

I have a pretty sweet idea for a brace but I need the turbo mounted on the header and in the car to finalize it and see if it will work. I will know by tomarrow night.

Travis.

[BOOGEYMAN]

Got the header all welded up last night and the collector all done as well and it looks killer in the car with the turbo hanging off of it!!! Today I am going to make the brace for the turbo, try to get the wastegate plumbing all done and start fabbing up the down pipe.

I will post some pictures later.

Travis.

[BOOGEYMAN]

I got the down pipe fabbed, the turbo brace all done and complete(came out sweet!!), didnt have the wastegate so that will have to wait a few days. Reid got the custom front Track bar all made and tacked up and I just put the finishing welds on it. Fuel cell mounted and pump mounted, Everything is going great!!!! It is 2:30 am and I just got home from a night on the town with Reid after a long day and I promise I will post pic's in the morning(well maybe afternoon when I get up :)) haha

Travis.

[BOOGEYMAN]

pics.
Chute mount
header
track bar

[BOOGEYMAN]

pics

Turbo mounted on the car.

[BOOGEYMAN]

pics

Fuel cell and pump

Turbo brace mounted to tranny

4 Inch Down pipe

Ice and water tank

[talntid]

such a cute LITTLE turbo.... ;)

[BOOGEYMAN]

Haha ya the down pipe on that turbo is bigger than most turbos on some imports!! I just got the IC all tig welded and mounted on the car, after the NHRA races today I am going to build the pipe from the turbo to the intercooler.

Travis.

[JLH]

(Bad Ass) I like what your doing with it can't wait to see how it does hope it does what you want....Good Luck to you.. Josh

[BlackMagic]

Sweet!!!! Thanks for getting the pics up Travis. It was a good progress weekend, hopefully we can finish most of it by next weekend and get started on paint.

[twotons]

looks great guys, thonly thing i noticed is the placement of the fuel pump. is that where it is staying. it should be in the back below the pump. that wouldnt be as hard on the pump.

[BlackMagic]

Thats where is has been for the last few years. You have a good point though Brian, I'll see where else I can put it.

[gregc]

On the turbo braces, it would significantly increase the strength if you were to put an "X" between the two making them one unit. Or at the least, tie them together with a bar.

Also, out of curiosity, why do you want to do it up in stainless? The mild steel is better for that situation, IMHO. If anything, do it out of chromolly to shed a bit of weight.

[BlackMagic]

On the turbo braces, it would significantly increase the strength if you were to put an "X" between the two making them one unit. Or at the least, tie them together with a bar.

Also, out of curiosity, why do you want to do it up in stainless? The mild steel is better for that situation, IMHO. If anything, do it out of chromolly to shed a bit of weight.


I think that Travis had already planned to add a cross support to the brace, it just wasnt in that picture.

The stainless is more for *bling* factor than anything else, a nice ceramic coated ss header sure would look good back there. For now, the mild steel will be wrapped and function just fine.

Weight is not an issue as I need to add ~450 lbs to the car to compete in the NHRA sport compact events.

[gregc]

If you are going to ceramic coat it anyway, why not keep the mild steel?

I've just seen lots of stainless stuff crack.

[KryptoSol]

For stainless stuff it seems that most are using schedule 10 or 40, backpurging, beveling, and double pass.

But if you got plans to ceramic coat it, i'd just leave it in mild, or wrap it up.

Everything looks cool though...

[BOOGEYMAN]

On the turbo braces, it would significantly increase the strength if you were to put an "X" between the two making them one unit. Or at the least, tie them together with a bar.



Greg,

i planned on building an x brace inside of the two braces I already built but they are so damn strong as they are with the 1/4 inch strap I may just leave them....not sure yet.

Travis

[Racemyjetta85]

Looks really good!!

[trbo355]

Looking good! I agree with Greg on the issue of stainless headers. The damn stainless expands at twice the rate of mild steel and is more prone to cracking. Your header is long enough with enough bends to probably be ok though. Mild steel headers uncoated do have a major long term corrosion problem inside the pipes but coating takes care of that since somehow they get the coating to go inside the pipe as well.
Joes turbo headers are stainless and pretty damn short on the front tubes so we will see if they bust or not. Also, stainless is really happy on a drag only car since there is so much less heat cycling than a street car.

[gregc]

i planned on building an x brace inside of the two braces I already built but they are so damn strong as they are with the 1/4 inch strap I may just leave them....not sure yet.


Cool. Does it just bolt on both sides? If so, I'd put the brace in. My reasoning is if the tubes weren't there to trianglate the whole structure, then the flange/mount could move forward and backward if the bolts were to work loose.

By adding the brace, you are taking that support for forward/backward movement away from the pipes and putting it into the brace.

[BOOGEYMAN]

Update 3/13/07

Got the wastegate all fabbed on and the wastegate down tube welded into the downpipe, It sure is a LOT of pipeing under the hood of a honda......:) I did the IC pipe from the turbo and just waiting on Reid to bring me the intake plenum he built at school the finish the rest. All is going good and should have paint on it by sat morning if all goes well, then next weekend chassis cert then the next weekend is the auto show so it will be tight but we should make it!!!

I will try to get some updated pics up thursday night. Thanks.

Travis.

[BOOGEYMAN]

Well it is 5:30 am on sunday the 18th and I just got done paintng Reids car.......what a long day, from 7 pm to 5 am and the car looks killer!!! Reid is going to try to post some pic's tomarrow and I need to go to bed!! Later,

Travis.

[ntrcptr90]

Is that mounting of the turbo going to affect the seals being at such an angle for the oil drain being tilted back.

[BOOGEYMAN]

At 60+ oil psi it will never know any difference.

Come on Reid get those pic's up!!!

Travis.

[talntid]

those turbos are not meant for 60+psi oil though, are they?

[trbo355]

those turbos are not meant for 60+psi oil though, are they?
60 is probably the upper limit and should be ok. They will survive on surprisingly low oil pressure and if they have a smoking problem, a restrictor can solve it as long as you put a gauge on the turbo to quantify how much psi it sees after putting in a restrictor. I think most guys shoot for 30 psi at the turbo. Im not sure how it will be affected by the mounting position its at either though.

[KryptoSol]

BB CHRA and 60+psi of oil pressure. i dunno...
If i remember correctly, don't BB CHRA require less oil pressure than journal bearing?

and at that angle i'd be scared of starving the compressor side BB cartridge, but who knows maybe its not an issue.

[BOOGEYMAN]

Remember this is a race only car, no street driving!! Fire it up do a burnout and race a 1/4 mile then its done.

Travis.

[NIevo]

When and where is the Auto Show?

[BlackMagic]

The turbo angle is a big issue with street cars simply because the oil can collect and coke in the turbo. I have talked with several others using a turbo at this angle (or greater) and they have told me that it just takes some extra maintenece. Keep in mind that the car will see, at most, 20 passes on an oil change so when the oil is changed I will just have to be sure to pay special attention to the oil return.


Here come the pics

[BlackMagic]

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar024.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar026.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar029.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar034.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar036.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar038.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar046.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar047.jpg
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http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar058.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar059.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/racecar062.jpg

[rrussell]

Looks awesome guys!

Reid your right the camera does make it look more copper.

[twotons]

looking good Travis and Reid

[trbo355]

That looks bitchin! Nice painting Trav!

[trbo355]

BB CHRA and 60+psi of oil pressure. i dunno...
If i remember correctly, don't BB CHRA require less oil pressure than journal bearing?

and at that angle i'd be scared of starving the compressor side BB cartridge, but who knows maybe its not an issue.
Good point about being a BB cartridge and possible different oil press requirements. I dont know the answer to that one. As far as feed oil goes, the bearings are direct fed thru oil galleys so the angle shouldnt hurt that part. Just drainback concerns which being drag only, shouldn't matter on a short burst like Travis said.

[KryptoSol]

Looks awesome guys!

Reid your right the camera does make it look more copper.


looks killer guys, nice work!

What color is it in person?

[BOOGEYMAN]

Thanks for the comments guys!!!**The top color is a Crystal black pearl and is killer in the sunlight and the bottom color is a sunset red candy tri coat. The pics just dont do justice for the colors! The pic's make it look more coper/orange than it really is, its way more of a brick red candy that looks like you could reach into it on the car! Now I have to wet sand the whole car and spin the buffer for a few hours and it will be good to go!

Damn thats one sexy guy putting clear on the roof........LOL

Travis.

[ntrcptr90]

Damn thats one sexy guy putting clear on the roof........LOL

Travis since when do you subcontract your work out????? Looks good

[BOOGEYMAN]

Damn thats one sexy guy putting clear on the roof........LOL

Travis since when do you subcontract your work out?????**Looks good


hahaha, good one! :P

[BlackMagic]

I forgot, the turbo really shouldnt see more than 40-45 psi oil pressure.

[1990secretgsx]

awesome work Travis, looks SOOO good. I'm sure everyone will love my spray painted black car.. not haha

[Throttletag]

Damn, thats turning out awesome guys. Can't wait to see it up close.

[Trannyman]

WOW not bad looks bitchen I'll head up tommaro check that shit out!

[BOOGEYMAN]

Car cert'd to 8.50 today! :)

travis.

[BlackMagic]

Update 3/26/2007

As Travis said, we stood in the rain for the majority of Saturday, but it was all for a good cause.**The car past tech and cert'd to 8.50 (now I just need to go that fast HA)**Anyway, we got the glass in today and put the doors on.**Also, had the intake plenum welded up and finished the fuel line plumbing.

As of now we will still be at the autoboat speed show next weekend.

manifold
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/100_0430.jpg
Manifold again
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/100_0428.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/100_0425.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/wsuk20/100_0421.jpg

[KryptoSol]

Nice intake manifold design.

[talntid]

That looks badass! :)

[BOOGEYMAN]

Got the IC pipes done after work today.

[twotons]

looking good guys, looks like you will make it to auto boat then huh. We will have a both again this year with Fullers truck in it. what time thursday are you going to go down and set up????????? hall at me if you need anything.

[1990secretgsx]

when is the auo boat show? i been seeing it on here quite often but havent seen ads for it or ne thing. enlightenment?

[gregc]

This Fri, Sat, Sun.