Local Tuner

[sleepersrule]

Does anyone know of a Spokane shop or person who could dyno tune my Honda after I fininsh my turbo install?
Looking for a reputable shop or person not your uncle's, cosin's, mom's best friend's brother who once hooked his laptop up to his 78' cvcc.
Thanks

[KryptoSol]

actually, back in 78' EFI tuning wasn't available yet. :)

ask getawayfromMoscow if he would be willing to help you out. Hes the efi guy around here. I'm too busy now days to even tune my own car.

actually i might know someone who might still be doing some tuning... Depends on what kind of system. I might free up in 2 weeks when spring break rolls around, who knows... i prefer to tune Neptune only though.... :)

[sleepersrule]

Well the 78 cvcc was more of a joke but I am hoping for a dyno before my project but I wont be ready to do the turbo until this summer some time. I was just hoping to find someone in Spokane instead of having to go to somewhere like Seattle just to get the tune up from a basemap. Just to let you know I have a 95 ex sedan D16Z6 W/ P28. So far I have only gotten my turbo but the kit should come together sooner than later. I am seriously getting a second job so I can do my turbo this summer!!

[GetawayInMoscow]

I can tune all motor but I have yet to tune a turbo car. Luckily I am boosting my car as we speak so in about a week here I will have experience with my car.

What do you have in terms of ostrich/wideband/willems etc.

[sleepersrule]

I'm still pretty new to honda's, so I need a little explanation of the osterich/wideband... Is it software like chrome or uberdata? And it will be later this summer before I can do the whole project too. Are you in Moscow Id?? I just graduated in 05!!! Go Vandals!!!

[KryptoSol]

The osterich is a emulator that works with CROME so you can tune real time. In a nutshell, The o2 sensors found in most cars are a narrow band, which has a narrow range of a/f reading. Wideband sensors, have a wide range of a/f and voltage reading, which is more accurate. Narrow band sensors are esentially useless for tuning.

[GetawayInMoscow]

Yeah I go to UI but im actually from Moscow too. What did you graduate in? Im a business major.

[sleepersrule]

I graduated with a degree in TV/Digital Media Production. Now I work at KXLY in Spokane Wa. So if you can tune my computer could you tune it to the mods I have now??
Here's what I have: 95' Civic EX Sedan 1600 SOHC VTEC D16Z6

K&N Cold Air
1" Throttle Body Spacer
Platinum dual point plugs
10.2mm plug wires
4-2-1 tubular exahust mani
2" custom exahust - cat back

Also:
Front and rear upper sway bars
Heavier Clutch w/lightned mass
rebuilt trans



It's OBD1 which I had to have someone explain to me about a week ago so I am really just learning. You need to check out hondacivicforum.com if you don't already go there. There is a lot of really good info there.
Thanks for the help
John

[sleepersrule]

And do I need to buy a wideband for a permanant install on my car or is it just for tuning?

[GetawayInMoscow]

Hey John-

To be completely honest, you don't really have enough mods for me to tune anything. If you were to buy a wideband and a chipped P28 and an ostrich ($550+), then I MIGHT be able to get you a few more horsepower, but most of the mods you have listed won't actually give you any power (tb spacer, plug wires, plugs) and might actually be robbing horsepower (stock OEM Honda ignitions are used on 800whp cars).

If you are planning on a turbo or supercharger or building your engine (bigger cams, higher CR pistons) you should let us know, but for now, there is not much to do.

[sleepersrule]

My plan is to do a turbo by the end of summer. I already have a t25 and basically need everything else. Should I buy a chipped P28 or have mine chipped. So should I get a wideband and an ostrich (like neptune??) too before the project all goes in so it can all be done at once? And in the end do you think you could dyno tune the fininshed project? Because there are a couple of dyno's in the Spokane area.
Thanks again.

[GetawayInMoscow]

Well if you go Neptune you don't need an Ostrich. Ostriches are for CROME only. If you go the Neptune route I would have Meng tune your car because I don't know shit about Neptune yet :)

I've never tuned a car on the dyno yet, but I have done a few on the street. I plan on dyno tuning my car this year but I'm not sure when.

You should buy a chipping kit for your P28 and do it yourself, it's really not that hard. Or sell your P28 and buy a chipped one :)

[pgmfituner]

Hey My name is cody and I have been tuning hondas for over 2 years. (turbo, Nos, All motor)
anyway one quick note an ostrich is not just for chrome. it can be used in many tuning programs. such as BRE which is an obd0 tuning software that i use to tune obd0 hondas. it can also be used in tunerpro and more. Like it has been stated an ostrich basicall imitates a chip. when you chip an ecu u burn a program onto the chip and sitick it in the ecu. but when you need to change a peramiter you have to pull it and stick it in the burner. not fun at all. so what the ostrich does is plugs in the chip socket via ribbon cable and it allows a laptop to update the ecu realtime. (a must if u plan to tune.) personally i encourage people to buy their own but i can use mine and plug it into your ecu. as far as wideband goes. MUST HAVE. once again I can install a bung and use mine just to tune but its much better to have your own. (someday you might learn how to use it)

anyway i am located in spokane and I chip and tune hondas. I have never blow an engine up and I can supply you with satisfied customers that will testify that i can tune.

call me if you need anything (509)-868-7317

[KryptoSol]

2 years?, You should know its spelt CROME. Shame on you... :P

welcome to the site.

[pgmfituner]

Shit my bad I am lesdistic or dislexic or somthing plus i cant spell for shit.

man you should be a spell checker lol

[KryptoSol]

Its all good not all Crome users have been around long enough to know that it stands for John Cui's ROM Editor. :)

[sleepersrule]

Hey man that's great. I hope to eventually learn to tune my ish but I think for now I'm gonna let someone like you do that. I've found a good line on a chipped ecu and will be hopefully getting the turbo set up finished this summer but I'll have to see how the cash works out. Thanks for all the help I'm sure you'll be hearing from me later this summer, do you go out to Spokane Raceway Park and do any racing? I'm not really building my car for drags, more for overall handling but I'll be going out there a few times I'm sure.
Thanks, keep the rubber side down.
John



Hey My name is cody and I have been tuning hondas for over 2 years. (turbo, Nos, All motor)
anyway one quick note an ostrich is not just for chrome. it can be used in many tuning programs. such as BRE which is an obd0 tuning software that i use to tune obd0 hondas. it can also be used in tunerpro and more. Like it has been stated an ostrich basicall imitates a chip. when you chip an ecu u burn a program onto the chip and sitick it in the ecu. but when you need to change a peramiter you have to pull it and stick it in the burner. not fun at all. so what the ostrich does is plugs in the chip socket via ribbon cable and it allows a laptop to update the ecu realtime. (a must if u plan to tune.) personally i encourage people to buy their own but i can use mine and plug it into your ecu. as far as wideband goes. MUST HAVE. once again I can install a bung and use mine just to tune but its much better to have your own. (someday you might learn how to use it)

anyway i am located in spokane and I chip and tune hondas. I have never blow an engine up and I can supply you with satisfied customers that will testify that i can tune.

call me if you need anything (509)-868-7317

[pgmfituner]

Great i would love to see your setup this summer and would be happy to help you tune. you said that you had a line on a chipped ecu? how much? becuase if you are needing your ecu chipped i can do it for $25 to help you out. I usually charge around $50 and most tuners do. I dont make my money anymore by chipping so whatever. anyway tell me what ecu have or if you need one i have a guy that has a ton of variouse ecu's. let me know and if you live here in spokane you can come by and it will only take me about 20min to chip and set you up with a base map. then you can get your car finished and we can tune it. let me know. happy to help anytime i can. also i do build custom turbo kits and weld everything myself so if you need anything like welding or mandrel bent pipe, silicone hose, t-bolt clamps anything. good luck and have fun.(thats what it should be all about) but sometimes we tend to forget that.

[swishathesweet]

hey i know of someone to tune any honda, and is a damn genius at it. Get back at me if you still need one. His last project was 350hp on a stock b18 with a turbo and some comp tuning. He is damn good.

[KryptoSol]

hey i know of someone to tune any honda, and is a damn genius at it. Get back at me if you still need one. His last project was 350hp on a stock b18 with a turbo and some comp tuning. He is damn good.


thats crazy, homie!!!:eek:

I need to get my shit tooned, i could only hit 34.7mph inbetween stop lights down division. :stupid:

[swishathesweet]

Hey Krypto, what are you running? engine? setup? Get back at me, email me or whatever and I will get at my guy. Do you mind driving to get it done?/

[Vrooom_WOAH]

I remember my first time trying to tune a turbo car. Took me couple of months, but I finally got the basics down. Must of did something good because that old baby of mine ran that flat 13. Way to go! And still running strong!

[BlackMagic]

Yeah Meng...he could help you out and you could be running at least 34.9 mph between the lights!!!

[KryptoSol]

Yeah Meng...he could help you out and you could be running at least 34.9 mph between the lights!!!


That would be breaking the law wouldn't it?


Hey Krypto, what are you running? engine? setup? Get back at me, email me or whatever and I will get at my guy. Do you mind driving to get it done?/


My tuner's tuner says that he might know your tuner? I dunno, they are a weird crowd. As of right now ive got big plans for the car, i want to be the first turbo honda in spokane. The only problem is i keep blowing charge pipes at 2.5psi of boost! I'm not sure, i think its a tuning issue. I would take it back to my tuner but he charges like $500 bucks an hour. My last tune i could only afford 15mins of tuning time. This sucks... :confused:

[pgmfituner]

what the hell

[BlackMagic]

My tuner's tuner says that he might know your tuner? I dunno, they are a weird crowd. As of right now ive got big plans for the car, i want to be the first turbo honda in spokane. The only problem is i keep blowing charge pipes at 2.5psi of boost! I'm not sure, i think its a tuning issue. I would take it back to my tuner but he charges like $500 bucks an hour. My last tune i could only afford 15mins of tuning time. This sucks... :confused:


You should try some of those T-nut clamps, they are supposed to put at least 500 oz-in of holding torque onto your hoses.

You might have problem with your pressure backflow regulator ...if your tuner didnt adjust the pressure reversion adjuster correctly your turbo could be creating a cosinusoidal pressure wave which could expand the silicone hoses and consequently cause back blowout to the turbo. I dont know though, just a guess.

[thursday]

hmm, good thread lots of info.

[KryptoSol]

are you being sarcastic? :ugh:


hmm, good thread lots of info.




BlackMagic,
Do you have a line up for those T-nutz clamps? I suspect all that mumbo jumbo you was talking is my problem. I'm lacking the clamping power on my tune?

[GetawayInMoscow]

Meng make sure you have a narrowband. A good tuner will know what this is and will be able to do some narrowband tuning. My boy was blowing his charge pipes off at only 2 psi but we think it's because his VTEC wasn't wired properly. After we rewired his VTEC and tuned the FMU all of a sudden his charge pipes stopped blowing off.

Next week we are upping the boost to 5 psi.

[NitrousFedZC]

Meng make sure you have a narrowband. A good tuner will know what this is and will be able to do some narrowband tuning. My boy was blowing his charge pipes off at only 2 psi but we think it's because his VTEC wasn't wired properly. After we rewired his VTEC and tuned the FMU all of a sudden his charge pipes stopped blowing off.

Next week we are upping the boost to 5 psi.


Dude by narrowband you mean a wideband right? Because the narrowband is the stock shitty o2 . Im pretty sure you are talking about a wideband and maybe call it a narrowband because narrow sounds right for making more accurate adjustments.

[BlackMagic]

BlackMagic,
Do you have a line up for those T-nut clamps?


Yeah, I can get them. They are special order from Japan though. I can probably overnight them if you need me too.

[gregc]

Napa has them. Though sometimes you have to convice the salesperson that they do.

[KryptoSol]

BlackMagic,
Do you have a line up for those T-nut clamps?


Yeah, I can get them.**They are special order from Japan though.**I can probably overnight them if you need me too.


Uhhh... BlackMagic, can you confirm that Napa carries these 500oz/inch clamping force T-nut clamps?

LoL...

This thread has gotten out of hand...

Welcome to Spokanespeed for any of you new members!

[KryptoSol]

Meng make sure you have a narrowband. A good tuner will know what this is and will be able to do some narrowband tuning. My boy was blowing his charge pipes off at only 2 psi but we think it's because his VTEC wasn't wired properly. After we rewired his VTEC and tuned the FMU all of a sudden his charge pipes stopped blowing off.

Next week we are upping the boost to 5 psi.


Dude by narrowband you mean a wideband right? Because the narrowband is the stock shitty o2 . Im pretty sure you are talking about a wideband and maybe call it a narrowband because narrow sounds right for making more accurate adjustments.



No, he meant narrow band gauge. Thats what my tuner uses and its the bomb!

Make sure to read the disclosure in my sig!

[NitrousFedZC]

Meng make sure you have a narrowband. A good tuner will know what this is and will be able to do some narrowband tuning. My boy was blowing his charge pipes off at only 2 psi but we think it's because his VTEC wasn't wired properly. After we rewired his VTEC and tuned the FMU all of a sudden his charge pipes stopped blowing off.

Next week we are upping the boost to 5 psi.


Dude by narrowband you mean a wideband right? Because the narrowband is the stock shitty o2 . Im pretty sure you are talking about a wideband and maybe call it a narrowband because narrow sounds right for making more accurate adjustments.



No, he meant narrow band gauge. Thats what my tuner uses and its the bomb!

Make sure to read the disclosure in my sig!


Gauge? so a narrow band air to fuel ratio gauge? im lost..... The way ive seen the guy who tunes all of our cars is he plugs in a wideband O2 sensor, and uses tuning software called BRI or turboEDIT on a lap top and fine tunes the entire fuel curve on the chipped ecu in real time from the lap top. Im still lost as to what you 2 are talking about.....i get the disclosure though.

So how does your tuner use this narrowband gauge to tune your car and explain it to me so i dont feel so un informed and confused?

[mike91]

You guys are so crazy with this whole boost thing. I havent even made it past the vacume part of my boost guage and I have been working on my car for over 2 years now.

[talntid]

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[2GTalonTSI]

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[KryptoSol]

Meng make sure you have a narrowband. A good tuner will know what this is and will be able to do some narrowband tuning. My boy was blowing his charge pipes off at only 2 psi but we think it's because his VTEC wasn't wired properly. After we rewired his VTEC and tuned the FMU all of a sudden his charge pipes stopped blowing off.

Next week we are upping the boost to 5 psi.


Dude by narrowband you mean a wideband right? Because the narrowband is the stock shitty o2 . Im pretty sure you are talking about a wideband and maybe call it a narrowband because narrow sounds right for making more accurate adjustments.



No, he meant narrow band gauge. Thats what my tuner uses and its the bomb!

Make sure to read the disclosure in my sig!


Gauge? so a narrow band air to fuel ratio gauge? im lost..... The way ive seen the guy who tunes all of our cars is he plugs in a wideband O2 sensor, and uses tuning software called BRI or turboEDIT on a lap top and fine tunes the entire fuel curve on the chipped ecu in real time from the lap top. Im still lost as to what you 2 are talking about.....i get the disclosure though.

So how does your tuner use this narrowband gauge to tune your car and explain it to me so i dont feel so un informed and confused?



I was being sarcastic, narrow band won't be able to tell you anything usefull for any sort of real tuning.

My tuner is currently gagged and hog tied in a little midget room in my basement, so i couldn't get any information from him. sorry, i'll keep working him.