Dyno at Shelly's

[jrjohnston]

I would like to have my SRT-4 dynoed and I wondered what it would cost to have my car dynoed and I wondered if there is anything that I need to do to the car before I bring it to the dyno. My friend got his SRT-4 dynoed and he had a tack signal problem on I believe it was a dynojet and was not able to get accurate figures. Also how hard is it to get an Air fuel ration on the dyno? I appreciate any information that you can provide me.

Thank You.

Jeff Johnston

[NIevo]

What are some things you have done to your car?

[GetawayInMoscow]

For the air fuel they just stick a sniffer in your exhaust (like the ones they have for emissions).

[twotons]

yes, A/F is available, and we have a few different ways to pick up a tach signal, so no problem there eather. if you have anyother ?'s halla whan ready.

509-891-0177

[jrjohnston]

For the air fuel they just stick a sniffer in your exhaust (like the ones they have for emissions).


Hi and Tank you for your replies.**I have installed the following items on my Dodge SRT-4:

Car:
-2005 SRT-4
-Orange Blast and ready for fun!

Engine:
-PTP fuel Pressure Regulator Mod
-3 Inch Mpx Stainless Steel Exhaust with a 3” O2 Housing/Turbo Elbow -and a High Flow Cat
-Mpx Front Mount Intercooler
-AGP Waste Gate Actuator Set to about 18.5 Pounds up from 14 Pounds Stock
-Stage 1 Mopar Computer
-AEM cold Air intake
-BoomBa BOV with a 16 pound spring installed

Suspension:
-Hotchkis Springs
-Hotchkis Sway Bars

I really want to know what kind of gains I have made in Hp and Torque and I want to make sure that I am not running to lean.**I would like the opportunity to very the pressure on the WGA and see how it effects HP and air fuel ratios.**Nothing major, I just want to explore the limits and a safe area for the car to run for longevity.

In the future I would like to add a Wallboro fuel pump and maybe a fuel return line.**All in all it is a fun car, not quite the coveted EVO you have and not as flexible and dynamic as a Honda ;-)!!!**I had a CRX many moons ago in 1987 and wish I had it too this day. The Evo, if I could have afforded it, would be my first pick bar none!

I want to do track days out at the Dragstrip GP Track, some autocross and drag racing too.**I would like to become a better driver.

Cheers,

Jeff

[jrjohnston]

yes, A/F is available, and we have a few different ways to pick up a tach signal, so no problem there eather. if you have anyother ?'s halla whan ready.

509-891-0177


If I could dyno early next Wednessday that would be great for me!!!**I work a funcky rotating shift schedule and Wednesdays work best. Let me know what it will cost me and can I pay by card.

Thank You Brian!

Jeff

[NIevo]

Are you from Idaho? There are a couple SRT-4's that color around here.

[jrjohnston]

Are you from Idaho?**There are a couple SRT-4's that color around here.


I am more north of Spokane in the out back of Kettle Falls, WA. I am usually in Spokane every week or so on a Saturday or Wednesday.

What have you done to your Evo?


Jeff

[NIevo]

I see, must not be you then.

My mods as of last year where: Buschur intake, O2 housing, FMIC, mini battery, and UICP. 10.5 hotside. RMR/HKS TBE. DC Sports manifold. GSC 272/264 cams. Cusco Twin Disc clutch. Dynoflash.

This year Ive added, GSC 280/280 cams, Buschur Motor Mount, Megan coilovers, and SMC alky kit. I also got a Zeitronix wideband and all the software to log and tune it.

[jrjohnston]

I see, must not be you then.

My mods as of last year where: Buschur intake, O2 housing, FMIC, mini battery, and UICP.**10.5 hotside. RMR/HKS TBE.**DC Sports manifold.**GSC 272/264 cams.**Cusco Twin Disc clutch.**Dynoflash.

This year Ive added, GSC 280/280 cams, Buschur Motor Mount, Megan coilovers, and SMC alky kit.**I also got a Zeitronix wideband and all the software to log and tune it.


Wow.....what kind of power are you getting out of your car. It sounds absolutely awesome!

[KryptoSol]

From what ive seen from my buddies SRT-4, the come from the factory pig rich. I think the Greddy Emange is quite popular among the srt-4 community, if you could find one of those or an AFC unit you could dial in your a/f and possible see some more gains while still being safe.

My buddies SRT-4 w/ stageIII was 10:1 a/f through out the rpm range. :o

[twotons]

i ll check the schedule and repost but i think i could do something wensday. the cost is 80.00 plus tax for hp,tq and A/F readings. and takes about a hour tottal time.

[jrjohnston]

i ll check the schedule and repost but i think i could do something wensday. the cost is 80.00 plus tax for hp,tq and A/F readings. and takes about a hour tottal time.


That would be great!!! Let me know what you have available and I'll be down there early.

Jeff

[NIevo]

Wow.....what kind of power are you getting out of your car. It sounds absolutely awesome!


Not sure, theres no AWD dyno around here. This year with the meth I should be around 400hp and 400tq.

[jrjohnston]

Wow.....what kind of power are you getting out of your car.**It sounds absolutely awesome!


Not sure, theres no AWD dyno around here.**This year with the meth I should be around 400hp and 400tq.


Cool, I just talked with Brian and I am hooked up for a pull on the dyno next Wednesday at 8:30 to 9:00 AM.**I am excited and it should be fun!** Hoping for some good numbers ;-)!!! I'll post my results when I obtain them next week!

Cheers,

Jeff

[KryptoSol]

Nice... dyno's are always fun even if you don't make what you hoped. Keep us posted.

[96gsx]

Spokane Needs an AWD Dyno!!!!

[talntid]

I agree!

[96gsx]

Now, who's going to fork over the $120,000 + install?

[jrjohnston]

Nice... dyno's are always fun even if you don't make what you hoped. Keep us posted.


If I don't get the numbers then it looks like the Dark SIde for me he he he he he he he !!!

[QWIKRNU]

Now, who's going to fork over the $120,000 + install?


The AWD Dynojet I was looking to buy is $60,000. If there were enough people willing to pay the going rate for 3 pulls on a awd dyno, it would already be here. Most shops in SoCal charge $125 for 3 pulls.

[96gsx]

New??**

[QWIKRNU]

Yes, straight from Dynojet.

[NIevo]

There might be a AWD Dyno going in over here. Still havent got all the details from my source though.

[96gsx]

That kid who owns Transworks is suposidly getting one.. Doubt it..

[MrVtec11]

That kid who owns Transworks is suposidly getting one..**Doubt it..


LoL, Scott, he will never get one his g/f wont let him...

[KryptoSol]

You know, from a business standpoint, its gonna take more than just a dyno alone to justify spending the $50,000-$100,000+, UNLESS you are constantly working on customer's projects who'll then want to put it up on the rollers to tune or get some HP numbers to justify dumping the loot into their projects.

I bet that its a small percentage of random people who call into Shellys wanting to dyno. Think about how many 3 run pulls it would take to pay off the cost of the dyno. I think Shelly's is successful at what they do b/c they can pretty much do it all from start to finish if thats what it requires. I don't think there are any import shops that have enough know-how and commitment to cater to an AWD import crowd. Totally not worth the investment if all you have is the dyno, and are dependant on revenues from the dyno.**We have enough trouble with the current import "race" shops as it is... all they want to do is sell intakes and exhausts... I can't see that people would be lined up ready to pay 75-100 for a couple of dyno pulls to see how much HP they gained from their $20 cold air intake and Junk2 exhaust systems. although, that would be a funny sight to see! haha...

now if somebody where to open up a real import car shop that could actually do all in house fabrication, build, tune, and dyno... then that would be a different story. Look at kaizenspeed for example, located in the middle of washington, and hes must be doing quiet good.

[a1320honda]

I know the guy that supposedly picked up and AWD dyno for $1000 thats 8 years old and has been sitting for quite some time. he was tryin to sell it to Head at tranceworks, or he was thinking about putting it in a shop. I dont know the validity behind all this, but we'll see. Its Apparently got the 2 rollers in the rear and then a total of 6 in the front.

[talntid]

I'd work in a speed shop! :)
get it done! ;)

[h0usebroken]

I didnt read all the posts so if im repeting somthing sorry in advance. i just called the shop about the rumor of a dyno day, nothings confermed but Im all over it. I would even pre-pay. Ive been their once alwready and have seen some impressive things their. Also my first attempt to dyno was a desaster and the didnt make me feel stupid at ALL. Thanks guys and lets get a dyno day rollen so i can try again and figure out my numbers{ big numbers:cool:}...!

[KryptoSol]

I didnt read all the posts so if im repeting somthing sorry in advance. i just called the shop about the rumor of a dyno day, nothings confermed but Im all over it. I would even pre-pay. Ive been their once alwready and have seen some impressive things their. Also my first attempt to dyno was a desaster and the didnt make me feel stupid at ALL. Thanks guys and lets get a dyno day rollen so i can try again and figure out my numbers{ big numbers:cool:}...!


What kind of car is that? all i see are bars everywhere. :)

I'm in for the dyno-day! ive tweaked some here and there so hopefully it'll make some decent numbers. Hell... if there is not one held by April i'm gonna just schedule some time in so i can get it over with... so i can actually put my focus elsewhere...haha...

[BlackMagic]

You know, from a business standpoint, its gonna take more than just a dyno alone to justify spending the $50,000-$100,000+, UNLESS you are constantly working on customer's projects who'll then want to put it up on the rollers to tune or get some HP numbers to justify dumping the loot into their projects.

I bet that its a small percentage of random people who call into Shellys wanting to dyno. Think about how many 3 run pulls it would take to pay off the cost of the dyno. I think Shelly's is successful at what they do b/c they can pretty much do it all from start to finish if thats what it requires. I don't think there are any import shops that have enough know-how and commitment to cater to an AWD import crowd. Totally not worth the investment if all you have is the dyno, and are dependant on revenues from the dyno.**We have enough trouble with the current import "race" shops as it is... all they want to do is sell intakes and exhausts... I can't see that people would be lined up ready to pay 75-100 for a couple of dyno pulls to see how much HP they gained from their $20 cold air intake and Junk2 exhaust systems. although, that would be a funny sight to see! haha...

now if somebody where to open up a real import car shop that could actually do all in house fabrication, build, tune, and dyno... then that would be a different story. Look at kaizenspeed for example, located in the middle of washington, and hes must be doing quiet good.


You are 100% right Meng. The numbers for a dyno alone do not justify the purchase. The shop needs to be full service including one-off fab and I believe that the shop still needs to supplement the income with another source (i.e. signature production parts).
I have been contemplating this for quite some time now, in fact it was the reason I went back to school for engineering.

The majority of current "import performance shops" are not helping our cause. Has anyone heard a Snow's commercial lately? They advertise cell phones more than performance parts...what a joke. With the exception of Shelley's, how many shops have cars showing up and putting on a good show?? None. Someday I hope to fix that.

For now I am stuck in Pullman, but I have faith that at some point we will have a true import speed shop in the area.

[KryptoSol]

Well... who ever can do it is going to have a healthy market!
Its gonna take someone with some sort of educational decipline and some business savy to be successful.



Now watch as everyone races to sketch up their business plans... lol...

I think i'll stick to investment banking... but i still have big dreams of building something that's gonna rival the Urban Legend. muahahahaha.... :P

[i SOHC]

but i still have big dreams of building something that's gonna rival the Urban Legend. muahahahaha.... :P


can't wait to see that! :D

[BlackMagic]

Yeah, the bad thing about urban legends though is that they rarely have any truth behind them.

Oh, I fixed it for you, by the way LOL


but i still have big WET dreams of building something that's gonna rival the Urban Legend. muahahahaha....

[KryptoSol]

You can't be the only one who owns a fast Honduh. LoL...


Using your build as a benchmark and if given an equal budget, i could build and tune a car to be equally fast. so now its just a money thing, and that'll come in a short time.

should be fun...

[jrjohnston]

I didnt read all the posts so if im repeting somthing sorry in advance. i just called the shop about the rumor of a dyno day, nothings confermed but Im all over it. I would even pre-pay. Ive been their once alwready and have seen some impressive things their. Also my first attempt to dyno was a desaster and the didnt make me feel stupid at ALL. Thanks guys and lets get a dyno day rollen so i can try again and figure out my numbers{ big numbers:cool:}...!



It's always good to deal with good people. I will be there tomorrow AM. I hope for good numbers and a good time. I will report back later!

Cheers,

Jeff

[phatlt23]

what is the date for the new dyno DAY???

[jrjohnston]

I had a great time going to Shelly’s; meeting Brian and getting my Dodge SRT-4 Dynoed.**Something unique about the shop was they had lots of awesome muscle cars and they were doing tuner cars too! Definitely a power shop for sure.**Since I have never been their before it was a great mix of cars from my point of view.**Seeing I am a country boy from Kettle Falls, Washington, I really appreciated that Shelly’s is off the beaten path on a nice country road.**Brian got my car in place, got her all buckled down and it was dynomania!!!

Here is a link with the official results:

http://www.blk-leather.com/SRT4.htm

My first pull was with 17 pounds of boost and I netted 276 WHP and 307 Foot pounds of torque.**After the first 3 pulls it was play time with the Waste Gate Actuator (WGA). My best pulls were at 21 pounds of boost rolling off to about 16 pounds towards redline:
287 Wheel HP
327 Foot Pounds of Torque

The guys at Shelly's were real cool!!!** They actually did about 8 pulls on it and we adjusted Waste Gate Actuator Settings after the first 3 pulls.**Pump it up!!!**Brian and all the guys their really care about what’s going on with your car and this dyno was worth every penny.**I have to give Brian at Shelly’s a big Thank You!!!**They are very helpful and assertive group even at 8:30 in the morning (Good Coffee ;-).**The place just totally rocks.

In the end my little orange front wheel drive rocket is happy with the performance we were able to obtain with the bolt on mods listed below and the tuned performance compliments of Brian and Shelly’s dyno.**Their hospitality netted me an additional 11 Wheel Horse Power and 20 foot pounds of torque.** Not a bad day for an Orange Bomb Neon on Steroids (SRT-4) that gets 24 MPG in the city and 36 MPG on the highway….ohhhhhh yaaaaa!

Thank You!!!

Jeff Johnston
Kettle Falls, WA
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Mopar Stage1, AGP WGA, AEM Cold Air Intake, MPx 3" o2 housing, MPx 3" Cat TurboBack Exhaust, MPx FMIC, PT performance FPR Medium, Prothane Race Motor Mount Inserts, Hallman Pro MBC not used.

[KryptoSol]

Sounds like you had a blast. Man, those things are torque monsters... makes Hondas cry.

[twotons]

Thanks for the props dude, it was a good morning and was happy to meet a new customer.

[jrjohnston]

Thanks for the props dude, it was a good morning and was happy to meet a new customer.


I really enjoyed it Brian and all the Thanks Goes To You! I look forward to coming back to visit just as soon as I can!

Jeff

[h0usebroken]

Its a 97 eclipse gs hella decked out with tons of mods. Originally it was never a turbo car. FWD sucks but now that its my 2nd car im into it car, nav and doors less then $4500.00. Any questions hit me up .!





I didnt read all the posts so if im repeting somthing sorry in advance. i just called the shop about the rumor of a dyno day, nothings confermed but Im all over it. I would even pre-pay. Ive been their once alwready and have seen some impressive things their. Also my first attempt to dyno was a desaster and the didnt make me feel stupid at ALL. Thanks guys and lets get a dyno day rollen so i can try again and figure out my numbers{ big numbers:cool:}...!


What kind of car is that? all i see are bars everywhere. :)

I'm in for the dyno-day! ive tweaked some here and there so hopefully it'll make some decent numbers. Hell... if there is not one held by April i'm gonna just schedule some time in so i can get it over with... so i can actually put my focus elsewhere...haha...

[talntid]

please start another thread and explain "hella decked out" :) i'd like to know

[KryptoSol]

Like you don't know what "hella decked out" means... It means Lambo doors, duh... everyone knows that. Get with the times bro.

[h0usebroken]

alot more than doors..!!



Like you don't know what "hella decked out" means... It means Lambo doors, duh... everyone knows that. Get with the times bro.

[KryptoSol]

"decked out" means lambo doors and aluminum wings. Horsepower speaks for itself and does not require an introduction. :)

[96gsx]

It ain't decked out utill it has Neon's..

[h0usebroken]

got it ,done it... gone farther !


It ain't decked out utill it has Neon's..

[h0usebroken]

Anyone near cda..??? ill show ya..!

[KryptoSol]

props to you. Neons would be cool to see on the rollers. :)

[multiplicityz]

is there gunna be one this spring or what?

a couple f-bodies in cda wanna get on the rollers :)

[twotons]

looking possibly at the end of April when the weather is a little wormer and more people would be ready, keep watching i will post as soon as i have a date.

[NIevo]

Hey Brian, check your PM's;)

[h0usebroken]

ahhhh that sucks. i cant wait to long i need my car. have u guys looked at the SAFC any more in the last 2 months..?? now that im up and running all i need is a tune..