LSx/tranny pullout, or wrecked Fbod

[GTIKyle]

Looking for an ls1 or ls2 full pull, with a t56 tranny. Spaldings rapes people blind, so im not even going to consider their prices.
Maybe someone knows a wrecked fbod? GTO?
Anyone with access to the insurance auctions?

Help me out guys.
thanks.

[89/00/02TA]

How much are you looking to spend?



Looking for an ls1 or ls2 full pull, with a t56 tranny. Spaldings rapes people blind, so im not even going to consider their prices.
Maybe someone knows a wrecked fbod? GTO?
Anyone with access to the insurance auctions?

Help me out guys.
thanks.

[GTIKyle]

Well my overall budget constraints just how much HP i can dump into it. So realisitically, i'd like to get the motor/trans for cheap. Depending on how much $ i have leftover, it could be H/C, or a blower.

Got anything in mind?

[89/00/02TA]

I have been tossing around selling my Forged 6.0L Iron Block and a stage 4 T56 from six speeds inc but I would like to get 6K out of it



Well my overall budget constraints just how much HP i can dump into it. So realisitically, i'd like to get the motor/trans for cheap. Depending on how much $ i have leftover, it could be H/C, or a blower.

Got anything in mind?

[twotons]

Then what Steve????????

[89/00/02TA]

Big cube LSX block and TH400 lol


Then what Steve????????

[SOMTA]

Big cube LSX block and TH400 lol

You surely are a madman. :D

Can frequent the for sale section in LS1tech. Would more than likely have to pick it up or have it shipped but I am sure you can find a better deal there than you would with Spaldings.

[GTIKyle]

You surely are a madman. :D

Can frequent the for sale section in LS1tech. Would more than likely have to pick it up or have it shipped but I am sure you can find a better deal there than you would with Spaldings.

Oh that's for damn sure. I've been watching, it's just hard to find a smoking deal on there, cause everyone knows what their shit is worth ;)

[sr240]

there are ppl on this site that work at spaldings... they might be able to hook you up.. ifyou give them a little money or something

[GTIKyle]

there are ppl on this site that work at spaldings... they might be able to hook you up.. ifyou give them a little money or something

Lol, i know several people down at spaldings, and there isn't much they can do for me when it comes to the shit they KNOW they can make good money on. :( Idiots willing to pay 8k for a motor....

[sr240]

eBay Motors: 2000 Camaro SS LS1 Complete Engine & T56 6 Spd Swap 46K (item 350082173851 end time Oct-20-08 18:43:32 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-Camaro-SS-LS1-Complete-Engine-T56-6-Spd-Swap-46K_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116Q QitemZ350082173851)

wat are you doing with the stock motor??

[GTIKyle]

eBay Motors: 2000 Camaro SS LS1 Complete Engine & T56 6 Spd Swap 46K (item 350082173851 end time Oct-20-08 18:43:32 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-Camaro-SS-LS1-Complete-Engine-T56-6-Spd-Swap-46K_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116Q QitemZ350082173851)

wat are you doing with the stock motor??


Stock motor, as in whats in the car currently? I'm selling it.

[GetawayInMoscow]

Swap in a B16

[GTIKyle]

Swap in a B16

The idea is to make more power, not less.
Besides, swapping in a b16 would throw off the whole handling of the car. Piston motors weigh so much.

[Silver R/T]

too bad youre doing this to a nice FD, I would've kept original rotary.

[GTIKyle]

too bad youre doing this to a nice FD, I would've kept original rotary.

If i wanted unreliability, less power, no torque, and constant issues...i guess that would be a good decision.
I know the purists out there will never see it that way (and im in no way mocking you), but i feel pretty good about my reasons for doing this.

[GetawayInMoscow]

too bad youre doing this to a nice FD, I would've kept original rotary.

I hope that was sarcasm

[Silver R/T]

If i wanted unreliability, less power, no torque, and constant issues...i guess that would be a good decision.
I know the purists out there will never see it that way (and im in no way mocking you), but i feel pretty good about my reasons for doing this.

Why dont you try a camaro or T/A then

[GTIKyle]

Why dont you try a camaro or T/A then

I like the way the rx7's look. Not to mention they are one of the best handling production cars ever made (within a reasonable budget)

[jrhaile]

If I'm in your boat, I'd do the same thing... that engine is just flatout terrible.

[Silver R/T]

ya most people dont want to mess with rotaries cause of lack of knowledge/experience and funds that's why its easy way out to go with an LS series.

[GTIKyle]

Easy way out? I don't see this as a cop-out to a problem.

Have you ever owned a rotary car? You must know how inherantly reliable they are. You must also be aware on how much aftermarket support there is, and how redily available parts are for them. Or how "cheap" it is to modify them.

I really don't want to start a debate about this, but seriously, if you're going to compare an LSx series motor to a rotary motor, you're going to be fighting an uphill battle.

I will admit that rotaries are different, and in their own right kind of cool. Do i want to spend 6+ grand on upgrading this motor, just to have it last < 5k miles? Not one bit. I'm not made of money, just like any other joe out there. So i will take the more efficient route here. Less money, more HP. Would you build a ferrari motor, just because it makes more power/displacement? Do you have 20k for a motor lying around? Seems easier to build a Mopar SB huh?

I like having a driver, with power. I like to know everytime i turn the key, that nothing is likely to go wrong. And if something DID happen to go wrong, i can fix it at a moments notice, from parts available nearly anywhere. I've owned rotary cars, i know what nightmares they can be. I've also owned an LS1 Rx7 before.


If you want the rotary to stick in a camaro or firebird, i'd be happy to sell it to you.

[sr240]

amen..........

[98Z28]

The FD was made for an LS. You've had too many problems with those "wanker", er, wenkel motors! :p Junk that paper weight for a aluminum 6.0/L92 heads/cam/100 shot. You'll enjoy having GetAway trying to catch up with you!

[3258]

You'll enjoy having GetAway trying to catch up with you!

LOL....

You have my vote GTIkyle, my motto has always been go for the best bang for the buck, run it hard, and tell the purist to screw off. I mean, lets be honest, it is not a collector car. I thought it would be cool some time to take an original bone stock early hemi car and put a big block chevy in it just to make the mopar guys cringe : maybe even butcher a hole in the side of the fender to dump the exhaust out......

[Silver R/T]

sure...if you could afford a hemi car, chevy might last in there a bit before it blows apart.

[Silver R/T]

If i wanted unreliability, less power, no torque, and constant issues...i guess that would be a good decision.
I know the purists out there will never see it that way (and im in no way mocking you), but i feel pretty good about my reasons for doing this.

on a side note why don't you go with a new Hemi, would be something new and you won't be just like every other rx-7 owner who stuck LS in their FD.

[89/00/02TA]

An LS motor can take quite a beating there is guys making upward toward 700rwhp on a STOCK BOTTOM END LS1. I myself made 554rwhp and 601rwtq on a stock heads, bottom end and cammed and sprayed 02 LS1 and drove it daily for 30k miles and put 3 years worth of track passes on it and when I took it out to replace it with the 6.0L I have in my car now it looked like the motor had never seen nitrous and like some old lady was driving it. On top of everything else I looked on ebay and it seems that those Hemi motors aren't cheap. He said he wants to make power and not spend a ton of $$. I in fact remember my buddy's cam only 99 Vert SS put a pretty good whoppin on that procharged mustang of yours before you owned it lol. If you want to go fast and not spend a ton of $$ the LS motors are the way to go.


sure...if you could afford a hemi car, chevy might last in there a bit before it blows apart.

[Silver R/T]

I dont think Ive spent nearly as much as buddy of your spent on his "vert" ss

[Silver R/T]

eBay Motors: 5.7 Hemi Engine (item 220292260236 end time Oct-18-08 19:23:38 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-7-Hemi-Engine_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a543Q7c39Q3 a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q 2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem220292260236QQitemZ2202922602 36)
not bad...

[GTIKyle]

. I in fact remember my buddy's cam only 99 Vert SS put a pretty good whoppin on that procharged mustang of yours before you owned it lol.

I dont think Ive spent nearly as much as buddy of your spent on his "vert" ss

Cam only vert SS? I can't imagine a cam being over $400. Doesn't sound like a lot for the supposed asswhooping its handing out...

I appreciate the link, but theres a few issues here:
So i'm to toss out FI for a carb'd motor?
Did you happen to see how tall that beast is. THere is no way that is going to fit in an FD.
At 485lbs, dry weight, no trans....That's quite a tank.

[Silver R/T]

LOL....

You have my vote GTIkyle, my motto has always been go for the best bang for the buck, run it hard, and tell the purist to screw off. I mean, lets be honest, it is not a collector car. I thought it would be cool some time to take an original bone stock early hemi car and put a big block chevy in it just to make the mopar guys cringe : maybe even butcher a hole in the side of the fender to dump the exhaust out......

funny you should say that as I was watching early Nascar races on DVD's and Dodges would win most of the races and some fords while chevies would puke oil all over track and blow up.

[Ninja_Bear]

TT LS1 ftmfw... stfu all else. Kyle, do it. Don't be a bitch.

*sorry, Im drunk as fuck atm.

[280z_girl]

funny you should say that as I was watching early Nascar races on DVD's and Dodges would win most of the races and some fords while chevies would puke oil all over track and blow up.

Oh quit with the 'dodge motors own all no matter what case or senario' bs...

The OP is asking about where to find a LSX motor... not a carb'd hemi. If he was torn on the issue and wanted opinions on some 'good' motors to toss in that would be a different issue.

Each motor has their up's and downs and since he's already weighed that out and decided on the LSX motor... how bout you keep your narrow-minded, dodge-loving opinions elsewhere...

kthnks

:)

[bowtiy]

Oh quit with the 'dodge motors own all no matter what case or senario' bs...

The OP is asking about where to find a LSX motor... not a carb'd hemi. If he was torn on the issue and wanted opinions on some 'good' motors to toss in that would be a different issue.

Each motor has their up's and downs and since he's already weighed that out and decided on the LSX motor... how bout you keep your narrow-minded, dodge-loving opinions elsewhere...

kthnks

:)

THANK YOU!!!!!!
nobody can honestly say the LS engine is not a good choice for any swap PERIOD!! it only weighs 415# w/o accessories, it has HUGE horse power capabilities, unlike the new hemi's that dodge themselves say cant handle over 500 fwhp without issues, they say the LS motors are arguably the best motors out there,,,,, i dont think there is any arguing to it i'm sold. i know i've got a 3700# car with a bone stock ls1 long block thats got a cam, intake, and some exhaust running 11.80's @ 117mph with no power adders, and still gets 21mpg on the hwy and never have to worry about it. as for price, parts availability, reliabilty, and performance, chevy has always been at the top of the list, always!! and while the quickest cars in the world are powered by hemi's(kinda) we all aren't on a top fuel budget.....
everyone has there own opinion:bigthumbs:
BOWTIY

[Trannyman]

ls motor for cheap is not gonna happen period even if its blown up there still worth big bucks

[GTIKyle]

Wow, thanks everyone to chiming in their opinions on what is ultimately my decision. I have weighed the options...there are reasons that i chose an LS over a hemi, or 4g63, or metro motor....etc. I feel this thread is not the one to justify any of it, just wanted to see if anyone had a motor i can buy :-\

So now that's been established, yes, i am looking for an LS2 preferably at this point. Perhaps it won't be "cheap" trannyman, but i know i can find a good deal if i keep my eyes open.

[sr240]

so what if you put a sbc carbed with blow threw?? you could do that for probly right around the price of a ls1

[GTIKyle]

so what if you put a sbc carbed with blow threw?? you could do that for probly right around the price of a ls1

Weight. Want to avoid making this a tank. Car stock weighs 2820...I'd like to have it no more than 2900 with this swap complete.

[sr240]

ya but it will have the power to make up for it being tt..

[GTIKyle]

This isn't going to be a straightline car. I'd like to maintain good handling.
a 500hp N/A Ls2 will do :)

[Ninja_Bear]

Oh quit with the 'dodge motors own all no matter what case or senario' bs...

The OP is asking about where to find a LSX motor... not a carb'd hemi. If he was torn on the issue and wanted opinions on some 'good' motors to toss in that would be a different issue.

Each motor has their up's and downs and since he's already weighed that out and decided on the LSX motor... how bout you keep your narrow-minded, dodge-loving opinions elsewhere...

kthnks

:)

...she returns. lol

[89/00/02TA]

I would think that mustang has alot more into it than my buddys SS did at the time. The procharger alone had to be 5-6k lol. Like GTI said a cam is $300-400 lol and I am talking Mod for Mod. Keep in mind his SS was N/A no boost or nitrous.



I dont think Ive spent nearly as much as buddy of your spent on his "vert" ss

[Silver R/T]

Oh quit with the 'dodge motors own all no matter what case or senario' bs...

The OP is asking about where to find a LSX motor... not a carb'd hemi. If he was torn on the issue and wanted opinions on some 'good' motors to toss in that would be a different issue.

Each motor has their up's and downs and since he's already weighed that out and decided on the LSX motor... how bout you keep your narrow-minded, dodge-loving opinions elsewhere...

kthnks

:)

ooo...looks who's talking now, aren't you driving a dodge, well not sure if it can be called a dodge since it wasnt even build in U.S.

[Silver R/T]

I would think that mustang has alot more into it than my buddys SS did at the time. The procharger alone had to be 5-6k lol. Like GTI said a cam is $300-400 lol and I am talking Mod for Mod. Keep in mind his SS was N/A no boost or nitrous.

yes i know parts alone for it were expensive but that doesn't mean Ive paid it lol Ive got a decent deal on a whole car so that is what I was referring to when you compared it to your buddy's SS, didn't he buy it from the dealer?
good example of what lil' 306 can do N/A N/A 306 goes 136 mph ALL MOTOR - Corral Forums (http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=840318&highlight=mexican+block)

[GTIKyle]

ooo...looks who's talking now, aren't you driving a dodge, well not sure if it can be called a dodge since it wasnt even build in U.S.

Maybe your missing her point. She's pointing out that she DOES drive a dodge, and that she knows her car isn't gold plated shit.. Just cause "your" mopars know how to drive 400 miles taking lefthand turns proves its the best shit on earth?

She's being realistic, not ignorant and retarded. Read it again.

[Silver R/T]

im not missing anyone's point, there's other good engines that are out there, all three brands GM, Mopar, Ford have some good engines

[Silver R/T]

depending how much youre looking to spend you can always get one off of ebay
eBay Motors: 00 Camaro SS LS1 Engine & T56 6 Speed Transmission LS2 (item 190258531771 end time Oct-17-08 18:07:16 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories___00-Camaro-SS-LS1-Engine-T56-6-Speed-Transmission-LS2_W0QQitemZ190258531771QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20Acces soriesQQddiZ2811QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1902585317 71&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)

[SRT Brian]

Wow this is pretty funny to read......

[SRT Brian]

ITs funny how a post can go from looking to buy or if anyone knows were someone can get somthing to this is better than that it can take more power bull shit lol. everyone has there weekpoints and there good points. If he wants a newer engine I would two point him at the LS engines. I own a mopar, a chevy, and a buick. I have owned a ford to. Its all what HE wants and is going for. Everyone can built there own thing. Just my .02 cents. :righton:

[a1320honda]

ls motor for cheap is not gonna happen period even if its blown up there still worth big bucks


Agreed!

I remember helping Jamie (94bluegsx) Look for an LS swap for his FD, and picking up something with higher miles and iffy tranny was still spending over 6K. You have all the FC and FD guys as well as the LT camaro and T/A guys looking for any one of the LS motors. Those motors are more in demand right now than honda vtec motors. Theres just NO WAY your gonna pick up an LS for under 6k, and thats an LS1, looking for an LS2 or later is gonna be more money.

Personaly i think you should look at like 351 ford motor. Considering that ford owns mazda, it would be kinda cool.

Or even better, do a 2JZ. not really pheasable, but still cool.
FS: Kick A$$ 2JZ-FD, No other like it! Pictures on page 12!! - Supraforums.com (http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=504650)

Reid Lundy down at KaizenSpeed is doin an F20C out of an S2000 on boost in their shop car FD that was coming along quite nicely.

OK ok, sorry i know your looking specificaly for an LS so ill stop pitching ideas.

Bottom line is cheap and LS2 dont go together.

[GTIKyle]

Funny you say that...I've built an LS1 FC before, and i spent 3500 for full motor/tranny, SHIPPED.
I'm not saying this is going to be budget, but i know i can do better than 6k .

[a1320honda]

Im just sayin over the last year and a half or so, those motors have become quite popular with the swap crowd, so prices have gone up. Its the issue of supply and demand.

I work at Spaldings dismantling on domestic cars. Is that what were asking for an LS1 is 6k? Who do you know that works there?

[GTIKyle]

B-low
Levi @ pull&save
gabe, nate...

And yah, they want unreal prices for LS1's...unless you can backdoor sneak it for me..;) toss yah a few bucks.

[a1320honda]

Ahhhh.....are you the guy that had the white FC? And you came over to Thrashers house that one night after we went out on argonne and raced a little, you were supposd to run Denis' 3kgt V-R4 right?

[GetawayInMoscow]

If I've learned anything in my short tenure of modding cars, it's to keep it simple (stupid!).

The LSx has been swapped into the FD hundreds of times. It's proven that it works, it's not that heavy, its reliable, the potential is there, etc. etc.

I don't know about you, but I love when I get in the z06 that when I turn the key it's going to start every time and everything is gonna work.

What rotary powered car making over 300 whp can honestly say that? My car put down 372 whp in DENVER and still has 100% OEM reliability.

Some people actually like driving their cars, and the rotary motor puts a huge damper on that. Don't believe me? Let one sit for over a month and try to start it and let me know what happens.

[bowtiy]

:hide: i for one appologize for the ignorance of myself and others on this topic.... we should be giving support in a fellow rodders project that is taking place. and will be a sweet little car when its done, instead of bitchin about what motor is better for this app...although the ls1 is a great choice...:p... good luck and keep us informed
BOWTIY

[yay]

rotarys are like a snobby high maintnance girl friend...u gotta throw a shit load of money into them to make them happy and worthwhile.

[280z_girl]

ooo...looks who's talking now, aren't you driving a dodge, well not sure if it can be called a dodge since it wasnt even build in U.S.

Fuck yeah i drive a dodge.. but do you see me preaching that its the almighty god of all other cars??? No. I love my car dont get me wrong, but the only reason i got it is cuz i wanted power and reliability on a budget... there is alot of other cars i would have gotten if money permitted.

Quit being a fucking douche about this. He doesnt want to put a hemi in his FD. Get over it!

[Northwest outlaw]

:eek: some one is all fired up.

[280z_girl]

Ignorance drives me insane...

[Northwest outlaw]

its all good try to get a smile out of you.:)

[SRT Brian]

Im smileing :) :beer:

[Northwest outlaw]

thats sounds good i think im going to have a beer my self.:pi_lightbulb::beer:

[SRT Brian]

HAHA yep its good......

[GTIKyle]

Ahhhh.....are you the guy that had the white FC? And you came over to Thrashers house that one night after we went out on argonne and raced a little, you were supposd to run Denis' 3kgt V-R4 right?

Yah, thats me. The FC is gone, the FD is on the menu now.

[GetawayInMoscow]

Everybody in this bitch gettin tipsy

[98Z28]

Who on here that really appreciates spending their time and money on their car hasn't gone to a car show and seen at least one car from almost every manufacturer that they liked? Camaro, Firebird, Mustang, Lightning, Charger, 'Cuda, Super Bird, RX-7, Supra, 350z, S4, IS300, Gremlin, ect.........
Quite bitchin about everyone else's decision on what they prefer. Just be glad it's not the same thing you have.:confused:

What would be cool is to get everyone together when you get the motor ready to go in, and have everyone hang out and help.
(Better give me a call on this one, too! The FC was lots of fun!)

Oh, and kyle, drop a Flathead in that thing. With a blower and about $10K invested, you could be pushin' close to 275hp, at the flywheel:bigthumbs:!

[talntid]

Hey Kyle, doesn't the trailblazer SS's have the LS2? I don't know if you already know that or not, but if not, it gives you another vehicle to keep your eyes out for... probably cheaper than the others...

[GTIKyle]

Your right, the SS trailblazer, GTO, Corvette (some years) all share the LS2.

[SOMTA]

I like the way the rx7's look. Not to mention they are one of the best handling production cars ever made (within a reasonable budget)

I won't lie, I am a pretty diehard domestic guy, but if a later Rx7 came by at a good deal, I would snatch that thing up and probably do the same thing you are looking at doing.

Will keep my eye out for any deals that might pop up. Could make a post in the f/s section of the NW members area on LS1tech.com and can also check out car-parts.com for other wrecking yards around the country.

I am sure you probably already know but just incase look for the 01+ LS1 engines. Come with the LS6 Intake so it flows a little better. Think this also applies to all LS2 engines also.

[GTIKyle]

I won't lie, I am a pretty diehard domestic guy, but if a later Rx7 came by at a good deal, I would snatch that thing up and probably do the same thing you are looking at doing.

Will keep my eye out for any deals that might pop up. Could make a post in the f/s section of the NW members area on LS1tech.com and can also check out car-parts.com for other wrecking yards around the country.

I am sure you probably already know but just incase look for the 01+ LS1 engines. Come with the LS6 Intake so it flows a little better. Think this also applies to all LS2 engines also.


Thanks bud. I think i've decided to go with an LS2 at this point. Car-parts.com is kind of a crap shoot, and you have to do alot of calling. But its not a bad resource. I didnt think of the NW section of LS1tech...might look into that. Thanks :)

[94blueGSX]

eat shit kyle, I got dibs on all the LS1's in the NW.

[GTIKyle]

eat shit kyle, I got dibs on all the LS1's in the NW.

And you can have them Jamie, but i want the LS2's
lol.

[94blueGSX]

touche'. I like it. game on...

[280z_girl]

eat shit kyle, I got dibs on all the LS1's in the NW.

hey.. ill be scouting for my LS1 here sometime too... :P

[GTIKyle]

hey.. ill be scouting for my LS1 here sometime too... :P

Hey, start your own thread :P

[Turbo_Z]

I know everyone is looking for ls1/ls2's but the 5.3/6.0 truck motors (lm7/lq4/etc) can be very good alternatives. They can be found very cheap are are much more plentiful. If you can stand the extra 80 pounds they can be had for 1/4 to 1/2 the price of a ls1.

[GTIKyle]

I know everyone is looking for ls1/ls2's but the 5.3/6.0 truck motors (lm7/lq4/etc) can be very good alternatives. They can be found very cheap are are much more plentiful. If you can stand the extra 80 pounds they can be had for 1/4 to 1/2 the price of a ls1.

Considered...but still going the LS2 route.

[Rollincoal]

You could always double the weight of your car with my engine, would be a good jumpstart to a 12v=P.

[94blueGSX]

I know everyone is looking for ls1/ls2's but the 5.3/6.0 truck motors (lm7/lq4/etc) can be very good alternatives. They can be found very cheap are are much more plentiful. If you can stand the extra 80 pounds they can be had for 1/4 to 1/2 the price of a ls1.

I honestly haven't heard of too many, if at all doing the 6.0, so I'm just going with the masses. I've been donating at the sperm bank every week for the last 6 months so I should be ready to roll by spring hopefully...or probably not.

[bowtiy]

eBay Motors: 06 GTO LS2 Engine w/ Manual T56 Trans 400 Hp 36k Miles (item 220291200755 end time Oct-16-08 18:38:08 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/06-GTO-LS2-Engine-w-Manual-T56-Trans-400-Hp-36k-Miles_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1163Q7c39Q3 a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q 2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem220291200755QQitemZ2202912007 55)

here ya go '06 ls-2 w/t-56 30k prob about the going rate, get out yer check book :):):)
BOWTIY

[GetawayInMoscow]

..ls3 Ftw..

[bowtiy]

I f your serious about buying you might get on craigslist, there is a member selling lots of stuff on there right now,,,,
Bowtiy

[89/00/02TA]

Hey thanks Mark. He was the one coming to look at the tranny yesterday after you left.


I f your serious about buying you might get on craigslist, there is a member selling lots of stuff on there right now,,,,
Bowtiy