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SRT Brian
07-16-2009, 05:26 AM
I came across, and know that theres 5 people on my fourms for my SRT that have been useing there new slick. its a 28" tall one. Bias ply is what im told. What is easyer on drivetrain stuff? a bias -ply or radial? I would think bias since theres more give on the sidewall.
smoke20
07-16-2009, 06:06 AM
No slick is going to be easier on the drive train. the purpose of the soft sidewall is to allow the tire to grip as the car is being launched. The bias ply will have much more wrinkle in the launch and probably better traction. Good luck with your choice.
Northwest outlaw
07-16-2009, 07:54 AM
Slick= bias ply
et street/QTP= bias ply
radial slick= radial
drag radial= radial
Both are going to be hard on the drivetrain the bias ply is a little eazyer to work with better to hook with with side wall give and not but do go arfter axles,ring and pinions,u-joints.
Radial tire do not like to be cup overed will go right in to tire shake and then your talking about braking wheel real fast. Set up right a radial tire can run fast.Here are some vid for you to look at injoy.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j317/588Bantam/th_CIMG0058.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j317/588Bantam/?action=view¤t=CIMG0058.flv)
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j317/588Bantam/th_CIMG0064.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j317/588Bantam/?action=view¤t=CIMG0064.flv)
YouTube - 1.34 60' on DR's in slow motion
YouTube - Dave Hance First 6 Sec Drag Radial Pass
And for the think about radials and bias ply mixing here you go
YouTube - Drag race - smacking the wall.
89/00/02TA
07-16-2009, 08:44 AM
I am pretty sure that your SRT has an IRS just like the wifes GTO. If it does I would go with the bias ply for sure. From reading about the IRS in the GTO's its the wheel hop that takes out axels and I have run a 26" tall ET Street on the GTO and it completely eliminated the wheel hop at the track. I have launched it anywhere from 2k-6k out of the hole with no problems. I am sure with more power I might break other things but I have seen GTO's on a stock rearend run into the 10's with slicks. On another note I ran Hoosier QTP's on my WS6 and I would never buy another hoosier tire again they lasted half as long as my ET Streets and I think the ET's hooked better also
I came across, and know that theres 5 people on my fourms for my SRT that have been useing there new slick. its a 28" tall one. Bias ply is what im told. What is easyer on drivetrain stuff? a bias -ply or radial? I would think bias since theres more give on the sidewall.
smoke20
07-16-2009, 09:51 AM
Wheel hop is definatley your enemy on any car. If your suspension is setup correctly you can eliminate wheel hop even on a radial. I agree with Steve the ET steet tire is very good hooks nice.
Jetblack
07-16-2009, 04:48 PM
Here's the guy who posted that vid of his car getting torn in half.
"drummernads (1 year ago)
Yes I did! A couple of broken ribs and a broken arm. No roll cage and a standard non retractable seat belt."
"drummernads (1 year ago)
Running slicks on the rear and radials on the front. The torsional effect of the car after I backed off the accelerator threw the car sideways. I was back drag racing 2 months later."
SRT Brian
07-16-2009, 04:58 PM
with the Bias in the rear radial up front, its all air press. 18PSI is perfect in the slicks. I have talked to 5 people with the same car as me. thats running it like this and say yes it dose fill different if you go below 18PSI. so i dont know. I know no slick is going to be easy on drivetrain but what im saying is what one is EASYER on it? a radial or bias ply? I do have IRS on my SRT. I just want to make sure i pick the right one.
Throttletag
07-16-2009, 08:58 PM
If the car is movin' around and feels wishy washy in the back on top end, there's no question that you need more air pressure in the slicks. You might even need a different compound. Ya gotta look at the pattern on 'em to see if the rubber is rolling over the edges or if you're using just the middle of the slick. Every car is gonna be different. I personally ran my radial street tires up front and Good-Year slicks on the back for years and it was solid all the way down the track and in the shut down area. Just my $.02...
Nitroused383
07-17-2009, 02:08 AM
I really think all you need is the MT Drag radial with an auto car. Manual cars shock load things alot more and they need the tire to have a little flex otherwise you spin. The automatics are a lot smoother on things so alot of people have great luck on the drag radials. Pretty much all the auto fbody guys run the MT drag radials. The amount of sidewall you have is going to be your biggest factor in traction though. 17" rim with not much sidewall is going to be tricky, but throw a 15" rim on and you have all the sidewall you could ask for. Plenty of guys lifting the front tires with the MT drag radials.
Nitroused383
07-17-2009, 02:51 AM
Also look into the M&H tires people have been ranting and raving about these tires. Setting new best 60' times and what not. I am either going MT ET Street or M&H cheater slicks, but I am running an M6. How much power are you putting down?
Radial Racing | Interco Tire (http://www.intercotire.com/tires.php?id=23&g=2)
SRT Brian
07-17-2009, 05:09 AM
On Nitrous I will be around the 500-550 mark. I cant put anything smaller than a 17 because of my 15" brakes on the car.
SRT Brian
07-17-2009, 05:24 AM
What im trying to figger out is this. What tire is going to work the best for me. One of the guys is running the Hoosier all out slick and said it tracks great down the track. and thats with radials up front. So I dont know. im sure im making a bigger deal out of this than need but but $400 for two tires I wanna make sure I get the right ones and dont make a pass and go shit that dident work. I just think the idea on bias were the wall will wrinkel more sounds like it would be easyer on the car V. Radial but I dont know.
Nitroused383
07-17-2009, 12:09 PM
From what I have read the hoosiers wear out a lot quicker than the MT's. Sounds like they are a little light and softer but I haven't seen where someone said the hoosiers work any better than the MT's. Do you plan on driving to the track with these? What size rim and tires can you fit under your car anyways? Size is just as important as what tire, you planning 26" or 28" tire? I have no clue what fits on your cars. Like I said either MT ET Drag radial or the M&H radials. No reason for a bias ply and auto.
Northwest outlaw
07-17-2009, 07:00 PM
:confused: Well when you want it to kook come see me :)
SRT Brian
07-18-2009, 05:30 AM
The smallest wheel I can fit is a 17" the widest tire I can fit under it is a 315. My gears are 3.06 . I figger if i got with a 27in tall tire witch is like a 275/40/17 I should have a gear ratio of about 3.27 around there. And with that, I will stay in 3rd gear tho the traps.
From what I have read the hoosiers wear out a lot quicker than the MT's. Sounds like they are a little light and softer but I haven't seen where someone said the hoosiers work any better than the MT's. Do you plan on driving to the track with these? What size rim and tires can you fit under your car anyways? Size is just as important as what tire, you planning 26" or 28" tire? I have no clue what fits on your cars. Like I said either MT ET Drag radial or the M&H radials. No reason for a bias ply and auto.
Nitroused383
07-18-2009, 12:00 PM
275/40/17 is a 25.6" tire, I would not go with a 27" tire at all way too big. You are going to need some gears or a high stall converter to do anything but bog. 3.06 rear gears with a 3rd gear ratio of 1:1 and a 26" tall tire is 150mph @ 6000rpm. How fast are you planning on trapping lol! A 27" tire is good to 157mph @ 6000rpm. With an auto you want to end up in your 1:1 gear (3rd) and not just use 1st and 2nd.
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