Anyone know AEM EMS?

[a1320honda]

Looking to run aem ems on my hatch and lookin for someone who knows anything about it.

[4STFED]

You should know from the DSM world that there are better options than AEM EMS unless you want full standalone. What about hondata?

[a1320honda]

You should know from the DSM world that there are better options than AEM EMS unless you want full standalone. What about hondata?


Ive not read very many good things about hondata. And for what i can pick up ems for is only a couple hundred more than hondata. Given the fact that prolly over**the next 2 years this will become a full blown drag car and just want something i wont outgrow. And ems has a shitload of options, like a 2step can either be fuel or spark cut. I just downloaded the software and going through it now to see how complicated it really is. And i know that there are the cheaper if not free tuning methods like BRE, Crome, and things like that, id just feel more comfortable with a standalone and have heard alot of good things about ems and their support.

[GetawayInMoscow]

AEM EMS? That's what Reid uses, but with that said....

Running CROME, something A LOT of people are running, will save you about $1000, money that can be spent on sleeving or a bigger turbo, etc.

With that said, I've never heard anything bad about Hondata, except that it's too expensive (compared to crome). I've really heard a lot of good things about Hondata S300, which is their newest one.

There are a lot of people all over the US who are putting down A LOT of power and are still using CROME.

How much power do you want to have? Because eventually you will be stuck at putting the power down, and that's going to hold you back 100x more than what EMS you are using ever will. Plus I prefer CROME because if I need to, I have atleast 5 people in my phone that I can call that also use CROME, and they all live within a 2 hour radius of me.

[BlackMagic]

I like EMS for the most part. I tuned my street car to 12.7 @ 8lbs with aem. My aem had a few resistor issues, but aem was quick to fix any problem I had.

[a1320honda]

I like EMS for the most part.**I tuned my street car to 12.7 @ 8lbs with aem.**My aem had a few resistor issues, but aem was quick to fix any problem I had.


So would you say its worth the money? How would you compare it to crome and hondata?

[KryptoSol]

You should probably ask yourself what kind of features you need in a fuel management system for your HP goals.

Its kind of silly to jump to AEM just for its ignition cut 2step. An alternative is running the MSD unit in conjunction with anyone of the other tuning tools.

[BlackMagic]

Im not familiar with Crome and I havent played with Hondata in its current form. aem gives the ability to tune in real time which, from what I know, Hondata and Crome do not.

For a full standalone I think aem is worth the money when compared to Motec and other systems. I am going to play with the EMS stinger system on the race car this year. It was significantly cheaper than aem and looks to have similar features.

[a1320honda]

the 2 step isnt the only reason. i just like the possibilty of all the adjustment. My current goals are only about 330hp. but over the next year or so i gonna be building a real motor and ultimatly looking for 650+. I just dont wanna outgrow my efi system and i just got a settelment so i have the money, so i might as well do it right from the beginning. Just lookin for someone who has had experience with it.

[KryptoSol]

Most Honda based fuel mangement is pretty damn robust... The question i would be asking if i were you is, what is the deciding factor to jump to a full stand alone?

It used to be that Crome, Uberdata, and Hondata had shitty ECT and IAT modifiers, which meant that full standalones had upper hand b/c of greater flexibility. Not so much the case now b/c Crome, Hondata, and NEptune all have those features that work awsome... although some are better than others.

If i were building something like the "urban legend" i would go full standalone, but for a street driven 300-500whp range car, i would stick with one of the Honda based fuel management systems. Hell... even some SFWD class cars still opt to run rom editors. Thats just my .03 cents.

Whatever the system you choose, its still gonna depend on the ability of your tuner.

I on the other hand will be switching over to a new system, but thats under wraps till i get it... :P

[a1320honda]

Most Honda based fuel mangement is pretty damn robust... The question i would be asking if i were you is, what is the deciding factor to jump to a full stand alone?

It used to be that Crome, Uberdata, and Hondata had shitty ECT and IAT modifiers, which meant that full standalones had upper hand b/c of greater flexibility. Not so much the case now b/c Crome, Hondata, and NEptune all have those features that work awsome... although some are better than others.

If i were building something like the "urban legend" i would go full standalone, but for a street driven 300-500whp range car, i would stick with one of the Honda based fuel management systems. Hell... even some SFWD class cars still opt to run rom editors. Thats just my .03 cents.

Whatever the system you choose, its still gonna depend on the ability of your tuner.

I on the other hand will be switching over to a new system, but thats under wraps till i get it... :P




Like i said, i just dont wanna get involved in one system for a year or so, and end up outgrowing it. i know i keep bringing that up but researching the Crome and neptune stuff, most guys were selling because they outgrew their systems and they didnt have the flexibility that they neede for thier current setups. So like i said, maybe ill go redline or something like that , but i dont have to deal with the flying leads and the crank trigger and all that crap, thats why i wanna do aem cuase its pnp. Plust i can swap over to individual coil packs later, theres just alot of flexibilty from what ive seen.


So Reid, how much of that suff do you really end up using in aem? it seems like theres alot there.

[BlackMagic]

im some form I used most of the compensation tables. It was actually very nice to tune the entire fuel map at a given temperature and then just go into the comp tables to fine tune for different temps.
I never got into boost comp since I was always running off the wastegate, but you can use a $14.00 GM boost control solenoid and use AEM to tune boost up to 30 psig.
I had the nitrous wired off the aem and it worked great.

I didnt really have the time to play with traction control or anti-lag.

[JLH]

Hey Reid whats up its Josh with the white 2door, quick question on that stigger are you going to be running stigger 4..I recently got the stigger 4 unit and I have been told its awsome has this system been used on honda's with vtec or does it matter Meng brought up a good point about vtec maps....can you give any info on that..

[BlackMagic]

At this point I cant. All I have been doing is playing with the software a little bit. I havent had the opportunity to use it with the car yet though.

From what I see, there are 4 aux output controls with the stinger and anyone of them can be used to activate and deactivate the vtec function. There are rpm only activation or rpm and pressure activation. As I said before, I don't see the need for seperate vtec maps.